I haven't seen any mention of the difficulties that will likely be encountered by anyone who dares to deviate from the expectations of authority structures. The largest being educational institutions, especially the public elementary and secondary schools. (Even most private universities insisted on COVID-19 vaccination.) I expect vaccine deviation almost certainly requires home schooling.
I have never heard anyone trying to analyze drops in hygiene when talking about the 'return of old diseases'. Like the Texas measles thing not a single major outlet is asking if the kid was living in a shithole, the town's hygiene turned shitty or they came from a different country where hygiene is shit.
My nine children have varying levels of vaccination due mostly to a lot of international moves. I had wanted to do a delayed schedule with my sixth, but the way things worked out she ended up without any until Covid. The younger three are all fully vaxxed according to UK standards, which means fewer vaccines than the US.
Some of my kids have chronic fatigue issues and it doesn't seem to correlate with vaccine status, but the chronic fatigue has a family history that pre-dates vaccines. Also, chronic health problems and autoimmune issues are pretty prevalent here, so I'm not sure if fewer vaccines would prevent them. Personally, I am of the opinion that somebody knows what's causing the autoimmune problems and is sitting on the information.
Both my vaxxed and unvaxxed kids have gotten mumps and whooping cough in the past few years. The increase in vaccine resistant strains of diseases is probably another issue that public health officials are going to fail to address effectively.
There are *no* solution-seekers. There are *only* trade-off arbitrageurs.
That de/mentality may be informed by the credo that “competition is for losers” & the reiterated version that intones lightbulbs that last indefinitely are bad for “business.”
()The ra/bidness of fraud & force.()
(Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket. ~ Eric Hoffer)
*nonly* - as always - fools the eye with rule-proving exceptions. Those might be sprinkle-scatter-allowed to help confound “the midwits”?
Per the engineer’s earned arrogance creed, have you dipped into any of Iain McGilchrist’s stuff? Books: The Master & His Emissary, & The Matter With Things
I was introduced to the face of “the science” (& the ancient playbook of these book-cooker-embezzlers) by Peter Duesberg back in the HIV-causes-it-&-its-gonna-kill-everybody days … pay no attention to the little man behind the ironclad silver bullet AZT curtain.
PD, whose book is Inventing The AIDS Virus, has got more of the right stuff in some nail clipped from his finger that Il Duce Fauci has in his whole munchkin body & is proof that scientific method is often ~ typically ~ backstabbed by Machiavellian method.
Kary Mullis, too, punched that face, but he was suppressed-cancelled-ignored about the diminutive crook, also.
The history, & bondo/paintjob, of vaccines is taken down to metal, leaded, & clear-coated in Suzanne Humphries Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines & The Forgotten History. Plenty quant-jock jocularity to be had in that volume.
Behind that is an explication of where the fork in the road - & in soooo many tongues - took place: Bechamp or Pasteur: A Lost Chapter In The History Of Biology, by Ethel Douglas Hume.
Recently RFK Jr’s book recovers all this shabby planned obsolescence upholstery yet again: The Real Anthony Fauci …is fake AF.
Competition is Cooperation is herd immunity is the rising tide that lifts everything that floats … & The Lady In Cement gangsters hate it.
Competition is authority & the alternative/s are mere arguments from authority.
Competition generates the numbers, not the Palace fallacies on their thrones.
Leaving the CisC meta-morphosis to, deferring to, the Left Hemisphere Emissary is the ongoing catastrophe.
Every day is chest day (& “we build men without chests” day, too, for sure …) if you want to slide any conversation - or conversion - plates onto the bar.
“Work out…” - BTO, Takin’ Care of Business … permission granted as long as it’s not non-essential business
GREAT analysis overall and you anticipated all of my major critiques. Still:
1. Peanut allergies are a self-inflicted epidemic. But probably not related to vaccines. When public knowledge of this risk grew, so did peanut avoidant behaviors--which fed the relatively minor issue since peanut exposure in early life is protective from developing the condition.
2. Whether mRNA vaccines (m is for modified not messenger btw) are safe or not may not even be the question as the public is rejecting them (see Moderna stock price) due to the bad science used during covid. They were highly effective in early 2021 with very favorable benefit/risk profiles. After delta, not as much. After omicron, not at all for most patients. And THAT should have been the end of all lockdowns etc. Flatten the curve until vaccination then get back to normal. How we got this so wrong is the main question we need to answer for the next (likely man-made) pandemic.
3. Post marketing studies do identify even rare side effects. See intussusception and Rotavax. I'm happy to review more data--and the study you referenced SHOULD have prompted more such studies. But I do suspect that higher health care seeking behaviors probably explain most of the differences.
4. Vaccinated kids are also more likely to be in day care (and of course, schools) than home schooled kids and we know that contracting viruses such as RSV. (Although the hygiene hypothesis makes the opposite argument.) I didn't see that the study you referenced tried to control for that.
My kids got all recommended vaccines. As have I. Going to get the RSV this fall. I HATE colds and will take my chances of dying if they even help a little.
Good article I might have to whip this out next time I’m in this argument. Also do you have any idea on how you get a smallpox shot? I know it’s been “eradicated” but with the kind of people that are being imported right now I’m not sure it won’t make a comeback.
I understand your concern about smallpox. I actually lived for a while in the part of the world where the last known cases were found; people who were born up until about 1957 had smallpox vaccination scars, those who were born later -- i.e. after the start of the first Sudanese civil war -- did not.
I never really had any confidence that researchers and medical people really did know there were no more cases, given the turmoil in that area.
Looked through similar process. Still had some desire for "on paper" fully vaccinated, maybe we will do less for second child and do an A B test. Stressful finding a pediatrician that could flex things, feels like an underground network.
Varicella vaccine seemed worth it to avoid shingles.
Some notes learned: PCV has a single dose catch up version at 18 month old. Rotavirus not given at all after 8 months old. HIB does not require any vaccine after 5 years old.
We focused on aluminum at spacing out grams / body mass over time.
Ones that contain Aluminum:
DTaP (for Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis): 170-625 mcg, depending on manufacturer
Hep A - Hepatitis A: 250 mcg
Hep B - Hepatitis B: 250 mcg
HIB (for meningitis; PedVaxHib brand only): 225 mcg
HPV: 225 mcg
PCV - Pneumococcus: 125 mcg
Pediarix (DTaP-Hepatitis B-Polio combination): 850 mcg
Pentacel (DTaP-HIB-Polio combination): 330 mcg
---
Complete at 5 years, spaced out.
1 aluminum per visit. No aluminum before 6 months.
I haven't seen any mention of the difficulties that will likely be encountered by anyone who dares to deviate from the expectations of authority structures. The largest being educational institutions, especially the public elementary and secondary schools. (Even most private universities insisted on COVID-19 vaccination.) I expect vaccine deviation almost certainly requires home schooling.
Texas at least makes this reasonably easy.
I have never heard anyone trying to analyze drops in hygiene when talking about the 'return of old diseases'. Like the Texas measles thing not a single major outlet is asking if the kid was living in a shithole, the town's hygiene turned shitty or they came from a different country where hygiene is shit.
My nine children have varying levels of vaccination due mostly to a lot of international moves. I had wanted to do a delayed schedule with my sixth, but the way things worked out she ended up without any until Covid. The younger three are all fully vaxxed according to UK standards, which means fewer vaccines than the US.
Some of my kids have chronic fatigue issues and it doesn't seem to correlate with vaccine status, but the chronic fatigue has a family history that pre-dates vaccines. Also, chronic health problems and autoimmune issues are pretty prevalent here, so I'm not sure if fewer vaccines would prevent them. Personally, I am of the opinion that somebody knows what's causing the autoimmune problems and is sitting on the information.
Both my vaxxed and unvaxxed kids have gotten mumps and whooping cough in the past few years. The increase in vaccine resistant strains of diseases is probably another issue that public health officials are going to fail to address effectively.
There are *no* solution-seekers. There are *only* trade-off arbitrageurs.
That de/mentality may be informed by the credo that “competition is for losers” & the reiterated version that intones lightbulbs that last indefinitely are bad for “business.”
()The ra/bidness of fraud & force.()
(Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket. ~ Eric Hoffer)
*nonly* - as always - fools the eye with rule-proving exceptions. Those might be sprinkle-scatter-allowed to help confound “the midwits”?
Per the engineer’s earned arrogance creed, have you dipped into any of Iain McGilchrist’s stuff? Books: The Master & His Emissary, & The Matter With Things
I was introduced to the face of “the science” (& the ancient playbook of these book-cooker-embezzlers) by Peter Duesberg back in the HIV-causes-it-&-its-gonna-kill-everybody days … pay no attention to the little man behind the ironclad silver bullet AZT curtain.
PD, whose book is Inventing The AIDS Virus, has got more of the right stuff in some nail clipped from his finger that Il Duce Fauci has in his whole munchkin body & is proof that scientific method is often ~ typically ~ backstabbed by Machiavellian method.
Kary Mullis, too, punched that face, but he was suppressed-cancelled-ignored about the diminutive crook, also.
The history, & bondo/paintjob, of vaccines is taken down to metal, leaded, & clear-coated in Suzanne Humphries Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines & The Forgotten History. Plenty quant-jock jocularity to be had in that volume.
Behind that is an explication of where the fork in the road - & in soooo many tongues - took place: Bechamp or Pasteur: A Lost Chapter In The History Of Biology, by Ethel Douglas Hume.
Recently RFK Jr’s book recovers all this shabby planned obsolescence upholstery yet again: The Real Anthony Fauci …is fake AF.
Competition is Cooperation is herd immunity is the rising tide that lifts everything that floats … & The Lady In Cement gangsters hate it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZZSfGdXIf8
Competition is authority & the alternative/s are mere arguments from authority.
Competition generates the numbers, not the Palace fallacies on their thrones.
Leaving the CisC meta-morphosis to, deferring to, the Left Hemisphere Emissary is the ongoing catastrophe.
Every day is chest day (& “we build men without chests” day, too, for sure …) if you want to slide any conversation - or conversion - plates onto the bar.
“Work out…” - BTO, Takin’ Care of Business … permission granted as long as it’s not non-essential business
make that the PayPalace fallacialists on their thrones.
GREAT analysis overall and you anticipated all of my major critiques. Still:
1. Peanut allergies are a self-inflicted epidemic. But probably not related to vaccines. When public knowledge of this risk grew, so did peanut avoidant behaviors--which fed the relatively minor issue since peanut exposure in early life is protective from developing the condition.
2. Whether mRNA vaccines (m is for modified not messenger btw) are safe or not may not even be the question as the public is rejecting them (see Moderna stock price) due to the bad science used during covid. They were highly effective in early 2021 with very favorable benefit/risk profiles. After delta, not as much. After omicron, not at all for most patients. And THAT should have been the end of all lockdowns etc. Flatten the curve until vaccination then get back to normal. How we got this so wrong is the main question we need to answer for the next (likely man-made) pandemic.
3. Post marketing studies do identify even rare side effects. See intussusception and Rotavax. I'm happy to review more data--and the study you referenced SHOULD have prompted more such studies. But I do suspect that higher health care seeking behaviors probably explain most of the differences.
4. Vaccinated kids are also more likely to be in day care (and of course, schools) than home schooled kids and we know that contracting viruses such as RSV. (Although the hygiene hypothesis makes the opposite argument.) I didn't see that the study you referenced tried to control for that.
My kids got all recommended vaccines. As have I. Going to get the RSV this fall. I HATE colds and will take my chances of dying if they even help a little.
Good article I might have to whip this out next time I’m in this argument. Also do you have any idea on how you get a smallpox shot? I know it’s been “eradicated” but with the kind of people that are being imported right now I’m not sure it won’t make a comeback.
I understand your concern about smallpox. I actually lived for a while in the part of the world where the last known cases were found; people who were born up until about 1957 had smallpox vaccination scars, those who were born later -- i.e. after the start of the first Sudanese civil war -- did not.
I never really had any confidence that researchers and medical people really did know there were no more cases, given the turmoil in that area.
Looked through similar process. Still had some desire for "on paper" fully vaccinated, maybe we will do less for second child and do an A B test. Stressful finding a pediatrician that could flex things, feels like an underground network.
Varicella vaccine seemed worth it to avoid shingles.
Some notes learned: PCV has a single dose catch up version at 18 month old. Rotavirus not given at all after 8 months old. HIB does not require any vaccine after 5 years old.
We focused on aluminum at spacing out grams / body mass over time.
Ones that contain Aluminum:
DTaP (for Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis): 170-625 mcg, depending on manufacturer
Hep A - Hepatitis A: 250 mcg
Hep B - Hepatitis B: 250 mcg
HIB (for meningitis; PedVaxHib brand only): 225 mcg
HPV: 225 mcg
PCV - Pneumococcus: 125 mcg
Pediarix (DTaP-Hepatitis B-Polio combination): 850 mcg
Pentacel (DTaP-HIB-Polio combination): 330 mcg
---
Complete at 5 years, spaced out.
1 aluminum per visit. No aluminum before 6 months.
2 months: Polio1.
4 months: Polio2,
6 months: DTaP1
9 or 12 months: DTaP2
1-2 years:
Varicella1, Hep B1
MMR1, Hep B2
Polio3, DTaP3,
2-4 years:
Hep B3
Hep A1
Hep A2
4-5 years: MMR2, Varicella2, DTaP4, PCV {1 dose}
*hib 5 year Do not require catch-up vaccination